Cathy McGowan in conversation with Kerryn Phelps and Van Badham

Glee Books Author talks:

Cathy chats about her book - Cathy goes to Canberra

Cathy McGowan discusses her political career and the benefits of 'doing politics differently' with Van Badham and Kerryn Phelps.

Length: 55 mins

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